See the post below to note the change from "Psychotic" to "Pathological"
Here is the text of her comment:
Apparently 1100 dead Arabs is not enough blood spilled for Israel's appologists.
The Nazi comparison is apt. They too believed in massive reprisal killings. 20 israelis died compared to 1100 Palestinians.
You must be so proud
Remember the definition of Pathological: informal compulsive; obsessive, inveterate, habitual, persistent, chronic, hardened, confirmed. : a pathological gambler.
The reality is that the Nazis did not believe in "reprisal killings" as suggested by the subject. They believed in GENOCIDE: the deliberate killing of a large group of people, esp. those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
Someone please explain what the Jews of Europe did to the Nazis to warrant the "reprisal killing" of 6 million of us? What exactly did the Roma, homosexuals, and other non-Aryans do to warrant the "reprisal killing" of 5 million? The suggestion that these innocent people brought the Nazi genocide on themselves is so utterly ludicrous that if I were not using it to demonstrate what a Pathological Judeophobe looks like it would not be worth mentioning.
The reality is that Israel has not committed genocide under the above definition, or as defined by international law, or any other definition. If genocide was the intent, Israel would not have unilaterally engaged a ceasefire. The operation would continue, whether Hamas was launching rockets or not. If genocide was the intent, then considering the tonnage that was dropped on Gaza in the last 20 days, hundreds of thousands would be dead, not 1100.
To further make the point, let us briefly examine Dresden. When the Allies bombed Dresden in World War II four missions were flown. Thirty-nine hundred tons of high explosive ordinance were dropped, killing 24,000 to 40,000 people. Military officials reported that around 100 tons of ordinance was dropped on the first day of Operation Cast Lead. Let's say that 100 tons was the average for the full 20 days. That's 2000 tons of explosives dropped over 20 days with only 1100 dead. That is not an act of genocide. That is an act of restraint.
Ergo, the Nazi/Israel comparison is not apt. It is Judeophobic, and an irrational, pathological response.
If genocide was Israel's intent and policy, after nearly 61 years of existence, and with it's massive "war machine," there would not be a single Arab man, woman, or child, in Israel or the territories. If genocide was Israel's intent Moshe Dayan would not have encouraged Arabs to stay in the "disputed" territories (the official legal status of Gaza and the West Bank, not "occupation" as suggested by Arab and Leftist propagandists), nor would Israel have given the administration of the Temple Mount, the Jewish People's holiest site (not the Western Wall) to the Muslims.
ProudBlackWoman operates from a position of willful ignorance, disregarding the most basic historical and legal facts, as well as failing to understand the real ramifications of the Palestinian death toll. Only 1100 dead, though very regrettable, is a reflection of Israel's attempts to reduce the loss of civilian life, complicated by Hamas' official policy of using civilians as shields, and their practice of herding them into targeted buildings to increase the civilian death toll (in violation of international law), with the purpose of enflaming public opinion against Israel (under international law Israel is not obligated to cease attacks when human shields are being used, but often does, even to the peril of her own soldiers and civilians, as has been demonstrated with irrefutable video evidence on this blog). PBW proves the effectiveness of Hamas' human shield policy. If we follow her line of reasoning, that I'm an Israeli apologist, I would suggest that she is in fact guilty of helping perpetuate this Hamas practice, and thus is indirectly responsible for Palestinian civilian dead; an accessory to the murder. If this tactic didn't work, they wouldn't use it (unless the civilians in question were Fatah members,or people accused of being Israeli collaborators, then it's just an easy way to kill them en masse).
She must be so proud.
Then there is her inherent racism. Would a rational person look at death totals and say, "Israel killed more people than they did," and apply a moral equivalency of right and wrong? Only 20 Israelis died so that's clearly okay. Eleven-hundred Palestinians died. Israel clearly killed more so it's the evil one. She has no feelings of regret that 20 Israelis died, and that more Israeli civilians have died as a result of being the targets of terror attacks, in violation of international law, than were killed on 9/11. She has no problem with the fact that hundreds of thousands of Israelis have been victimized by Hamas rocket fire for 8 years, and suffer from debilitating panic disorders, in addition to being maimed and killed. Her irrational hatred of Jews and Israel, and her blatant disregard for their rights, is so intense that she draws conclusions based on non-reality based suppositions, and legitimates her psychosis by comparing Jews to Nazis.
This is how the Pathological Judeophobic Leftist mind works. The irony is that, as a Black woman, she has most likely faced the same irrational, baseless hatred that she herself applies to Jews, and then takes this irrationality a step further by inferring that, because I stand against her racism, and the racism of other Judeophobes, that I must be proud of the fact that there are 1100 dead Palestinians.
No, I am not proud. I am furious. I am furious that for 8 years Hamas rockets have fallen on Israeli civilians, in violation of Israeli human rights, and international law. I am furious that all the complaints filed with the UN regarding these attacks did not lead to one action by that body to stop the rocket fire. I am furious that the international community did not come to the aid of the Egyptian government to stop the smuggling of grad and katyusha rockets into Gaza, as they are suddenly pledging to do now, which only serves to exacerbate their complicity by past inaction. I am furious that the Israeli government under Ehud Olmert did nothing about the rockets, even though Israeli citizens literally begged him to take action, until 10 weeks before elections. I am furious at the death of every man, woman, and child in this conflict because they could have all been prevented if only Hamas' genocidal policy vis a vis Israel had been rejected by the international community, and the UN stood up to protect Israel from it. This did not happen. Now more than 1000 people are dead, and that blood is on the world's hands.
I must be proud? Fuck you.
ProudBlackWoman, you are a Judeophobe and a racist bigot. Ironically, tomorrow is Martin Luther King Day, a day when the nation takes a moment to remember Dr. King's legacy, a day to remember his goals, and to assess whether we are any closer to achieving those goals. Dr. King's dream was that people would hold the rights and freedoms of all people to be as precious as their own. Your words, and the actions of other Judeophobes, like those shown in the photos below, demonstrate just how far we are from making that dream come true. Apart from the blood that has been shed, and the lives that have been lost, your words, and the actions of other Judeophobes like those depicted below, saddens me the most. But this also strengthens my resolve to continue to work, in spite of and because of your hate, for the fulfillment of King's dream.
You do not believe Jews are entitled to the same rights and freedoms as everyone else, whereas I pray that the Palestinian people will no longer have their future determined by homicidal madmen whose raison d'etre is the extermination of my people. Palestinians are just as entitled to live in peace as Israelis. As long as Hamas is in power, and seeks to destroy Israel, there will never be peace because, much to your chagrin, the Israeli government is not going to allow Hamas to attempt to exterminate the Jews of Israel. As long as people like yourself continue to hate us, Israel will continue to be a haven for us when genocide is attempted against us in the Diaspora. That is our unalienable human right, and the purpose of the existence of a Jewish homeland.
The day you get that is the day you can call yourself "Proud." In the meantime, I suggest you spend MLK Day thinking about the poison of your prejudice, and what you plan to do about it.
4 comments:
Shtuey
I am a person pained by any kind of racism, bogotry, gender bias, homophobia and what not. You are so right in what you point out in this post. There is just one topic which I want to mention to you:
As a psychotherapist I have worked for years with numerous people suffering during florid psychosis and there is the difference; these people suffer tremendously. Racists, homophobics etc do not suffer by their ignorance, hate and lack of understanding, they make others suffer by it. While people suffering with psychosis are subjected to severe mental disorder, gruesome fears and unnerving flight of thoughts, they are not responsible for their adverse actions directly.
Racists are indeed directly responsible for all their hateful thoughts, language and all other deeds. So, IMHO, if you call a racist a psychotic, you free him/her of responsibility, but you also stigmatize people who have never chosen to have this pathological state of mind, caused by a random physiological defect in their neurotransmitter's function.
It is probably "deformation professionnelle", but I think we should all be concious of this very important difference.
Petunia mentioned the same thing. What would be the proper term to use then. Anyone who operates from a place of baseless hatred has clearly separated themselves from reality,, but as both you and Petunia have suggested, these people are responsible for their actions. I have been thinking about this since Petunia brought it up.
What's your professional diagnosis?
Bad character? Stupidity, lack of intelligent thought, heartless, projecting their own meanness unto others, lacking maturity, inhumanness and with the recent hate of jews from lefties: I would say, as mentioned in another thread, identification with whom they perceive as victim.
Racism is a hate projected on a certain group; there are people who feel better about themselves if they think they are superior to certain others.
Shtuey
I wanted to post this comment over at petunia, but I am somehow not able to comment there:
"Racists have to divert their self hate unto an (anomymous) group, don't they? And they have to do it obsessively, continuously, as if to make sure that it doesn't backfire.
To ridicule and belittle others makes misogynysts and homophobics feel better, but the relieve lasts only a short moment, then they repeat. Sometimes they even think it's funny. (Jon Favreau)
Quite a different story though with some of the selfrighteous moralists we have on our political left. They take a shortcut through a complex conflict, relieving their frustration - of not having a solution, the pain of witnessing human suffering, not being able to cope with their rising emotions - through identifying with whom they perceive as the victim. The result is blaming the "stronger" side in the conflict and letting the whole world know how bad these are.
My own shortcomings? Patience and compassion with the above people. Nelson Mandela and yes, also Hillary Clinton guide me in this struggle"
I hope I don't repeat myself too much.
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