It's the same in any lingo

בַּת-בָּבֶל, הַשְּׁדוּדָה: אַשְׁרֵי שֶׁיְשַׁלֶּם-לָךְ-- אֶת-גְּמוּלֵךְ, שֶׁגָּמַלְתּ לָנוּ
אַשְׁרֵי שֶׁיֹּאחֵז וְנִפֵּץ אֶת-עֹלָלַיִךְ-- אֶל-הַסָּלַע

How can one be compelled to accept slavery? I simply refuse to do the master's bidding. He may torture me, break my bones to atoms and even kill me. He will then have my dead body, not my obedience. Ultimately, therefore, it is I who am the victor and not he, for he has failed in getting me to do what he wanted done. ~ Mahatma Gandhi
If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am not for others, what am I? If not now, when? ~ Rav Hillel, Pirke Avot

This Red Sea Pedestrian Stands against Judeophobes

This Red Sea Pedestrian Stands against Judeophobes
Wear It With Pride

27 May 2009

An End To The Two-State Farce?

Yesterday was the Israeli conference on seeking alternatives to the "two-state" nonsense convened by Tzipi Hotovely. Somewhere around 200 people attended the conference including members of the Knesset and the Yesha Council of settlement members. A variety of ideas were batted around, including that of annexing the entire West Bank, which was floated by Uri Elitsur. This idea has always been considered unworkable and unpopular as it has commonly been held that it would mean an eventual Arab majority. Recent demographic data suggests that the birthrate among religious Jews is the highest now, and that Palestinians are leaving the West Bank. If annexation were to happen I would imagine more would leave, perhaps for the already existing Palestinian state of Jordan.

Other alternatives were floated, though none any more practical than annexation as long as the West Bank body politic is dedicated to destroying Israel.

To my mind it is not the possible alternatives offered that are important to me. What is important is the fact that it is now openly being discussed that the "two-state" farce is not a viable option. Moshe Ya'alon has echoed what I have been saying all along:
"Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said they would never recognize Israel as a Jewish state. This reflects that the Palestinians are striving not for the 1967 borders, but for a state that would be created over Israel's destruction, from the Jordan River to the sea.

"This also explains why [Yasser] Arafat waged war against us in September 2000 - to eliminate the two-state idea, which was about to reach fruition."
Now that members of the Israeli government are finally addressing the elephant in the room there is no need for anyone to engage in the dog and pony show that is the Israel/Palestinian "Peace Process." There can be no peace when one side continues to be dedicated to the ideology of destroying the other.

Now Leftists are eager to pipe up and say that Israel is dedicated to the destruction of the Palestinians, and I once again point out to these vacuous, bigoted, ignorant, morons that if this were indeed the case, if indeed the Israelis are nothing but genocidal Nazi baby killers, then this conversation wouldn't be necessary. Every Arab man, woman, and child in the West Bank and Gaza would have been erased from existence years ago. Right? RIGHT??? Right.

One side has been committed to peace since Partition: The Israelis. One side has been committed to destruction and genocide: The Arabs. Whether it was Moshe Dayan encouraging Arabs not to flee to Jordan in 1967, Israel giving the Muslims the administrative authority over the Temple Mount, withdrawing from southern Lebanon and Gaza, or sitting down with committed killer Yassir Arafat, and then his cohort in death Mahmoud Abbas, who financed Black September's operation in Munich that resulted in the deaths of 11 Israeli olympians, Israel has stuck its neck out repeatedly and has repeatedly gotten nothing but more slaughtered civilians, kidnapped soldiers, and rocket attacks. And still the dumbshits that run this country, be it Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, George W. Idiot, or Poseur Pajama, want Israel to sanction the creation of a state run by these same terrorists.

The Pajama administration, despite what was told to them by Prime Minister Netanyahu, still thinks the old Saudi peace plan is a "basis" for negotiations. When are these asshats going to get the message that Israel is not going back to the pre-67 borders? And, despite the fact that both Shimon Peres and Netanyahu have made it clear that natural growth construction of Jewish communities in the West Bank is going to continue, his Secretary of State pipes up with more tin ear lunacy:
"The president was very clear when Prime Minister Netanyahu was here. He wants to see a stop to settlements - not some settlements, not outposts, not natural growth exceptions," she said. "That is our position, that is what we have communicated very clearly, not only to the Israelis, but to the Palestinians and others. And we intend to press that point."
Newsflash Hillary: No one in Israel gives a crap. It's not the Israeli States of America. Maybe if you and your boss respected Israel's sovereignty, a condition y'all seem to be making with every other country in the world, you might get it and stop blowing all this hot air. Perhaps if y'all were as committed to stopping Iran from getting the bomb as your are to forcing Israel to commit suicide, someone in the Knesset besides Tzipi Livni would give a shit about what you have to say.

I find it telling that in all the talk from Madame Secretary and her boss about Middle East peace there was no elaboration on the "very specific proposals" that she mentioned.

Madame Secretary here's some advice from someone who spent a lot of sleepless nights campaigning for you in the primaries, and I mean this with all due respect: take what Netanyahu said to your boss, and what I've been saying on this blog for months to heart. There is no restart of negotiations until either Hamas and Fatah unconditionally recognize Israel as a permanent Jewish homeland, or there is a regime change in the West Bank and Gaza. If you can't or won't bring that to the table then shut the hell up. Go bother someone else like the Somalians so the genocide in Darfur ends, or pressure Myanmar to free Daw Aung San Suu Kyi. But please stop wasting the government of Israel's time with your bullshit. Israel is not going to be sticking its neck out anymore.

I believe that Interior Minister Eli Yishai said it best at the Hotovely conference:
"Netanyahu's diplomatic line is appropriate and justified....We must not beautify ourselves to win their [the Americans'] affection."
Do you hear that Pajama administration? No more Oslos. No more.


lililam said...

shtuey, I read a reference to Hillary's statement earlier on Hillary is 44. It was very disturbing to me. I am beginning to see your point. There was no reason for her to be so directive and the US has no right to be so blatantly condescending. It saddens and angers me.

Shtuey said...

I agree lililam. The only reason for it is that this administration is hell bent on bringing Israel to her knees, which is what I've been saying about Pajama since last year.

She can only vindicate herself now by leaving the administration and denouncing it. And even then I would have hard time believing her. I gave her the benefit of the doubt as a politician (it has always been my estimation that they are all reflexive liars) running for President. This is a whole other ball of wax.

lililam said...

I had a Sociology professor many years ago who told me that all those who aspire for such high office are, by definition, insane. He wasn't joking nor was he being partisan.

Shtuey said...

Oh, you definitely have to be crazy. That's why my running for President makes so much sense.

lililam said...

You read my mind, shtuey- I thought of you as I wrote that. I'm glad you didn't take offense.

Shtuey said...

BTW, what is the reaction on Hillary is 44? Is it still heroine worship, or are people seeing what is happening?

lililam said...

sorry, shtuey- I was out for a bit. Actually, Hillary is 44 is still an excellent site and quite active. They have good, insightful anti-BO essays that are well-referenced. They are pro-Hillary and pro-Israel. At the time I wrote the above, the commenters ignored that little detail re: Hillary, but since then, someone did remark sorrowfully how Hillary has stooped in obeisance. That person was not tarred and feathered. I was hesitant to say anything earlier, as I am not a regular commenter and feared reprisal, but they appear to be open to such criticism. You may wish to check it out.

renaissancelady46 said...

If we fail in our foreign policy (there really isn't one) Hillary will take the fall. Her choice to accept SOS was short sighted on her part but totally narcissistic...all politicians are narcissists...

What goes around comes around....and I truly believe it will.

I am so totally over my Hillary obsession.

Marcel Reid of the ACORN 8 and I discussed Hillary last night. Neither one of us to this day understand why she gave up without a fight, not what we expected. We are still puzzled but over it.

OT: Marcel has an interesting take on the Africa American vote ...she believes that AAs voted for Mishy not Obozo...Why? Because it was the first time they got to see a strong AA woman with a man. Most powerful and accomplished AA women are alone...husbandless...

Anyways Marcel is a great woman...

Mary Ellen said...

I'm totally baffled about why Hillary took on the post of SOS, as I was equally baffled as to why she turned her back on her supporters and allowed the DNC to steal votes without raising a hand to fight back. I know there were back room deals and I know that being offered SOS was part of that deal, why else would she have called off her campaign so easily?

I still think she made a big mistake, she will be blamed for anything that goes wrong and Obama will be given credit for anything that goes right. Obama has her where he wants her...directly in front of the wheels of his bus, ready to back over her at the most opportune time.

Thanks for the info in this post. You stated something that I had not thought of...if Israel wanted to, they could have obliterated Palestine a long time ago, but they didn't. That's something you don't hear from the MSM.

commoncents said...

Great post - keep up the excellent work!

ps. Link Exchange??

Shtuey said...

I always thought it was politically dangerous for her to take the State job as she would be under his control, etc. I thought that it might be a good move if he gave her a degree of autonomy since he has no foreign policy experience of ANY kind (living in Indonesia and having impoverished relatives in Kenya that he does not take care of in any way does not count, even though the assface actually said that foreign policy was his greatest area of strength for those very reasons...on that basis alone I feel justified in calling Pajama a stupid fucking idiot). She certainly has the brains, etc to do extraordinary things at State, but in the end, the pissant couldn't handle being upstaged by Hillary...again. That's why they stopped doing joint appearances. They were cheering for her and ignoring him.

But let's face it, she is not even the point person on foreign policy. She's nothing more than his mouth piece at this point.

If he does try and throw her under the bus and blame his foreign policy failures on her I would hope she would tell the truth. Everything he's doing right now is based on the dumbass bullshit he talked about on the campaign trail. None of this is remotely resembles what Clinton campaigned on (not that this can be trusted either). His constant backtracking, fuck ups, and apologizing; that's all him. The Clinton hating media will gladly cut her head off however if given the chance.

We'll never know the truth about the back room deals, etc. I still think they threatened her or her family. We all know what Chicago has done, and is capable of doing. Our country is in the hands of a political machine that makes Philly look like the fucking cub scouts.

I wish they'd all just fuck off.

Shtuey said...

Commoncents, you've been on my blogroll for weeks now. ;-)